why christianity?

[beccababe]

The devil was sent to hell because he wanted to rule over heaven and earth but god wouldn’t let him, right? Well, the way the Christians believe it to be, we must devote our entire lives to god or else! We must bow down and worship their god because he is “the one true god”. He sent the devil to hell because why? He couldn’t share leadership? Was he to selfish or jealous, or what? It is funny that a religion such as Christianity would in fact be based upon a selfish god.

And why is the devil considered evil? Because their “one true god” says so! So, who is evil? The one who was sent to hell for wanting to be equal to god or the one who suffers from the same sins as the devil whom was condemned to hell? Isn’t Christianity based upon the same principal as satanic worship (minus all the nasty stuff they doto other people)? There is one true god and it is the one we worship so you must obey or else?

Another thing I find funny is the way that they say to you that if you don’t worship their god you have been won over by the devil! If we do not believe in their god then why would we believe in his adversary?



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[ArmsMerchant]

The biblcal jehovah and satan are both mythical. But try telling that to an xian.

Does that clear it up?

[Iscariot2]

Exodus 20:5 - Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I think he knows he's jealous.

[Kikey_Kikeowitz]

quote:Originally posted by Iscariot2:

Exodus 20:5 - Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I think he knows he's jealous.

At least he admits that he has his faults.

As for the question in the subject line - why not?

I bet you're an athiest, and love telling everybody, too.

[Kikey_Kikeowitz]

quote:Originally posted by beccababe:

The devil was sent to hell because he wanted to rule over heaven and earth but god wouldn’t let him, right?

I haven't read the entire Bible(to be honst, I mostly focus on the first 7 books), but I doubt this is anywhere in it.

Sounds like Catholic mythology added after the fact to me.

quote:Well, the way the Christians believe it to be, we must devote our entire lives to god or else!

Yep. That's pretty much it. Kinda foolish, but what do you care if you don't believe in G-d anyway?

quote: We must bow down and worship their god because he is “the one true god”.

He IS the 'one true god'. To them. Who are you to question their beliefs? You don't know that they're wrong.

quote: He sent the devil to hell because why? He couldn’t share leadership? Was he to selfish or jealous, or what?

The entire Satan story is a sham. If one were to take it seriously, as it seems that you do, it's not entirely illogical to come the conclusion that G-d decided that, if Satan were to gain power, he would not use it in a very responsible way.

Besides, G-d had already set up that snazzy 'One and Only True G-d' title.

It's too cool for him to change it.

quote:It is funny that a religion such as Christianity would in fact be based upon a selfish god.

No, it's not funny. It's false.

quote:And why is the devil considered evil? Because their “one true god” says so!

The devil is considered evil because he drives people to hurt their fellow man.

We said the devil was evil. The devil doesn't even exist.

G-d knows he doesn't exist, and has let us go on fearing him just because he's got that kind of sense of humor.

quote: So, who is evil? The one who was sent to hell for wanting to be equal to god or the one who suffers from the same sins as he whom was condemned to hell?

...that didn't make any sense whatsoever. Can you do me a favor and rephrase into something coherent?

quote:Isn’t Christianity based upon the same principal as satanic worship (minus all the nasty stuff they do)?

Well, Christianity worship G-d(or, more accuraterly, Jesus). Satanists worship Satan.

So, no.

quote: There is one true god and it is the one we worship so you must obey or else?

Well, like you said, there's only one true G-d. Why not worship?

Better than burning in eternal hellfire, you know.

You do know that they don't want you to burn in Hell. They actually think they're saving you. They're so compassionate that they want you to be with them in heaven. Sure, they COULD let you burn and get their own mansion in heaven, but they want you to be eternally happy.

They gave up their mansion for you. Show some respect.

quote:Another thing I find funny is the way that they say to you that if you don’t worship their god you have been won over by the devil! If we do not believe in their god then why would we believe in his adversary?

Being taken control of by the devil does not require you to believe in him. Well, to them at least.

Are you sure you're not stuck in 1600s Colonial America? I've never heard of anybody in this century saying that somone's been possessed by the devil.

[Schizophrenic Styrofoam]

Christianity, like all other religions, is something you choose to believe. The people who believe it try to help the people who don't. All the religious conflict in society today is caused by people not accepting that other sets of beliefs have rights too.

As for the devil, no where in the bible does it say the devil exists. There is one quote, "If you are not of the Christ, you are anti-christ," (I don't know where this is exactly) but that is like saying if the light is on, it's not off.

If people would just let others believe what they want, except them, & be open to listening to new ideas (not nessasarily believe them), then the world would be a lot more peaceful.

The part of Christianity I don't understand is God has given ten commandments and everyone must follow them or go to hell, but Christians still believe they have free will. How is that free? If your good you receive a huge reward, but if your not perfect you will be punished beyond belief.

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[just.landed]

Schizophrenic Styrofoam, the choices that we have are severely underated, but they are still there. Worship God and be saved. Worship yourself and you won't be saved.

[the_merlin]

quote:Originally posted by Schizophrenic Styrofoam:



As for the devil, no where in the bible does it say the devil exists. There is one quote, "If you are not of the Christ, you are anti-christ," (I don't know where this is exactly) but that is like saying if the light is on, it's not off.

Wow.

Satan is mentioned numerous times in both the old and new testaments. Satan = Devil, btw.

So i'm not sure where you get the above information from.

[Kikey_Kikeowitz]

quote:Originally posted by Schizophrenic Styrofoam:

The part of Christianity I don't understand is God has given ten commandments and everyone must follow them or go to hell, but Christians still believe they have free will. How is that free? If your good you receive a huge reward, but if your not perfect you will be punished beyond belief.

You are not forced to follow the 10 Commandments. It is your choice whether or not to do so. This is Free Will.

Of course, you'll burn in hell if you don't, but you still have to make the choice yourself.

[TigerJK]

quote:Originally posted by just.landed:

Schizophrenic Styrofoam, the choices that we have are severely underated, but they are still there. Worship God and be saved. Worship yourself and you won't be saved.

How about saving yourself?