Sexism against men

[Bum Wax]

Although sexism against men is prevalent and accepted the impact is far less than that of sexism against women or other forms of discrimination against minorities

white males are still the highest-paid and most successful demographic and sexism such as that which you describe is insignificant compared to that which women face daily

[Martian Luger King]

Originally Posted by Bum Wax

white males are still the highest-paid and most successful demographic and sexism such as that which you describe is insignificant compared to that which women face daily

Women always say this but they never take in to account that women may indeed not be natural CEOs and bankers. Clearly the odds are not against you, hell the discriminatory hellhole that is Texas elected a female Governor back in the 80s for crying out loud. Society has been overfeminized and women have the upper hand, I called a woman a cunt once and nearly got arrested for it. Clearly, if she had called me a dickwad, which she did numerous times, along with other interesting insults I never could have done shit about it. Not that I would need to, I could have snapped her neck like a twig if it weren't for the law and that's one of the beautiful equalizers of nature. I have never once seen or heard of a woman being discriminated against and I grew up in a very discriminatory part of the world. I have never seen women treated with anything but the utmost respect whether it be in the job force or schooling, or in public in general. I don't really even see racial minorities discriminated against that much anymore, aside from places such as say, Arkansas? Women have affirmative action and you're bitching about discrimination, what a fucking joke, you just want to be discriminated against so you can be a whiny fucking cunt.

[Bum Wax]

I am not saying that there is not discrimination against men

the only claim I make is that the societal advantages men are given outweigh the discriminatory disadvantages

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Bum Wax

Although sexism against men is prevalent and accepted the impact is far less than that of sexism against women or other forms of discrimination against minorities

white males are still the highest-paid and most successful demographic and sexism such as that which you describe is insignificant compared to that which women face daily

Just because someone else has it worst (in this case, women and minorities), it doesn't make it OK to discriminate against (white) men.

OP (along with a few other posters) have a point. Our society seems to think that by discriminating against the traditionally more well-off group it will somehow make life more "fair" for the other groups. This is a very weird, not to mention counter-productive way of thinking.

the only claim I make is that the societal advantages men are given outweigh the discriminatory disadvantages

It might be true; however it still doesn't make it ok to discriminate against men, just because the disadvantages they suffer are somewhat offset by what advantages they enjoy.

It's very simple really. Discrimination is wrong, therefore, we should refrain from doing it, period.

[Bum Wax]

All discrimination is wrong but in our current western society it is also inevitable

white males are the least justified in complaining about their positions in life comparative to others

[WritingANovel]

Originally Posted by Bum Wax

All discrimination is wrong but in our current western society it is also inevitable

No offense but you have a very defeatist attitude.

Discrimination might or might not be inevitable, however if enough people share your attitude, most likely it will become inevitable.

white males are the least justified in complaining about their positions in life comparative to others

Absolutely false.

They have just as much right to complain about a wrong committed against them as any other person, regardless of people's/your notion that they usually "have it better" than other groups.

I will give an example. Suppose I am a millionaire. Some thief stole 1000 dollars from me. Do I say, "well, compared to those homeless people on the street who barely have any money on them, I suppose I should refrain from going to the police and just count my blessings that I am a millionaire"? The answer is no. What that thief did to me is wrong, therefore, I am justified in protesting against it, regardless of my "lot" in life. Whether a complaint/protest is justified is determined by whether an actual crime/wrong has been committed, NOT on how well-off the victim is.

[Bum Wax]

I said that discrimination is currently inevitable, not that it always will be and not that it is in any way right

the act of theft is equally wrong no matter who perpetrated it but the impact upon a millionaire is less than it would be upon a lower-class family

[KnifeJuggler]

Originally Posted by Bum Wax

white males are still the highest-paid and most successful demographic and sexism such as that which you describe is insignificant compared to that which women face daily

Just because you are a white male, it doesn't guarantee that you'll get more money, there are many many very poor white males. And life isn't all about money anyway, happiness is really important too. If a woman takes away a man's right to custody of his children, then the woman is essentially stealing his happiness.

Feminists, society and the government don't think a man's happiness is as important as a woman's happiness. Wearing nice clothes and having long hair makes me happy, but I wouldn't have that option in the suit and tie business world while a woman would.

There are lots of white men in jail right now being treated badly. While if a woman committed the same crime, she might not be in jail or would be treated better in jail. The man's happiness and time is considered as less important in this scenario.

Even in my high school. There were 3 restrooms on campus for girls while only 2 for boys. And the boys locker room was surrounded by a cage while the girls wasn't. (That was because of theft in the boys locker room.)

[DerDrache]

Yep.^

Women's rights have been out of hand for way too long. They couldn't vote and their main function in society was to find a husband to support them. Boo-hoo. How exactly does an equality movement end up giving them significantly more rights and luxuries than men? As I wrote in another post, I understand that good programs like Equal Employment have temporary unfair consequences, but the inequities go well beyond getting hired or accepted into a school.

Men are like third-class citizens when it comes to any sexual matter, and I'm still amazed at how they lowered the fitness standards for female firefighters (and female cops too, if I'm not mistaken). I'm glad that Rescue Me's writers had the balls to show it how it is. Hopefully they shattered the dreams of some retarded little girls that hope to one day be pretty girly-girl firefighters.

Sigh. What the hell can be done about all this?

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Bum Wax: What fucking sexism do women face on a daily basis? Unless you live in a Muslim country, Russia, or are trying to make your way up the upper corporate ranks in some company, you don't experience any goddamn sexism. Rather, you've just been trained to think of almost anything that doesn't praise women to be sexist. It's quite similar to the retarded bullshit that black Americans have hissy fits about ("Oh no! Don Imus called those hoes nappy-headed").

In academic environments, female students are almost always viewed as more reliable and "smart" than male students. The only time they face sexism is in a situation where they are trying to become accepted by a team of old bigots who think they know everything. Aside from that, what are you talking about?

When a male says or does something that draws attention to a woman being physically weaker? That's not sexism either. It's a fact.

How about when a men complain that their girlfriend is oversensitive and illogical (ie. thinks with her feelings, not in terms of reality and practicality)? That's not sexism either. Just a fact. Emotional support is important for a woman, thus she has good reason to demand it. The "illogical"/oversensitive view comes from the tendency of women to ignore important tangible, real-world demands in favor of what they perceive to be important emotional demands. Such emotional needs can be sparked by trivial things, and that is annoying to men, and thus will inevitably lead to complaints. But it's not sexist. The opposite truth is that men are relatively insensitive. We don't shit a brick when we're told that, however.

A guy trying to pick you up or flirt with you is not sexism. A guy making a crude sexual remark is not sexism. Even an ass-slap, although a violation of personal space, is not sexism. It's called "wanting to have sex with someone.", also known as "nature". (Note, by the way, that whenever the tables are turned, a guy doesn't start bitching about chauvinism, nor does he get anyone's sympathy.)

The one and only "daily basis" example I can think of is stigmatization of sexual women as "sluts". However, that certainly can't be pinned on men, as women have been using the word (and the concept) for millenia as a way to protect their interests in men.

[Bum Wax]

If a woman is in the company of men her opinion will rarely be taken seriously

if a woman gets a job on merit a man will claim she got it purely because she's a woman