I was reading this book and the following is a cut down version of the conversation.
M1 “Where is your free will? Is it part of your brain, or does it emanate from someplace outside your body and somehow control your actions?”
M2 “I’ll say it comes from my brain. I mean, it’s a function of my brain. I don’t have a better answer.”
M1 “Your brain is like a machine in many ways, isn’t it? The brain is composed of cells and neurons and chemicals and pathways and electrical activity that all conform to physical laws. When part of your brain is stimulated in one specific way, could it respond any way it wants, or would it always respond in one specific way?”
M2 “There’s no way to test that. No one knows.”
M1 “Then you believe we can only know things that have been tested?”
M2 “I’m not saying that.”
M1 “Then you’re not saying anything, are you? So where is free will?”
M2 “It must involve the soul.”
M1 “Soul? Where is the soul located?
M2 “It’s not located anywhere. It just is.”
M1 “Then the soul is not physical in nature, according to you?”
M2 “I guess not. Otherwise someone probably would have found physical evidence of it.”
M1 “So you believe that the soul, which is not physical, can influence the brain, which is physical?”
M2 “I guess I believe that.”
M1 “Do you believe the soul can influence other physical things, like a car or a watch?”
M2 “No, I think souls only affect brains.”
M1 “Can you soul influence other people’s brains, or does it know which brain is yours?”
M2 “My soul must know which brain is mine, otherwise I’d be influenced by other souls and I wouldn’t have free will.”
M1 “Your soul, according to you, knows the difference between your brain and everything else that is not your brain. And it never makes a mistake in that regards. That means your soul has structure and rules, like a machine.”
M2 “It must.”
M1 “If the soul is the source of free will, then it must be weighing alternatives and making decisions.”
M2 “That’s its job.”
M1 “But that’s what brains do. Why would you need a soul to do what a brain can do?”
M2 “Maybe the soul has free will and the brain doesn’t. Or the soul causes your brain to have free will. Or the soul is smarter or more moral than the brain. I don’t know.”
M1 “If the soul’s actions are not controlled by rules, that can only mean the soul acts randomly. On the other hand, if your soul is guided by rules, which in turn guide you, then you have no free will. You are programmed. There is no in between; your life is either random or predetermined. Which is it?”
M2 “Maybe God is guiding my soul.”
M1 “If God is guiding your soul and your soul is guiding your brain, then you are nothing more than a puppet of God. You don’t really have free will in that case, do you?”
M2 “Maybe God is guiding my soul in a sort of directional way, but it’s up to me to figure out the exact steps to take.”
M1 “That sounds as if God is giving you some sort of an intelligence test. If you make right choices, good things happen to your soul. Is that what you’re saying?”
M2 “It’s not about intelligence, it’s about morality.”
M1 “Morality?”
M2 “Yes, morality.”
M1 “Is your brain involved in making moral decisions or do those decisions get made someplace outside your body?”
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Now I’ve been thinking about this conversation all night and I can’t find anyway out of it. It’s as if every answer is barred. The idea of having no free will is actually disturbing me.
So, my question is do you think free will is real?
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