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Old 2009-01-11, 07:19
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Default Re: How can Muslims be non-radical?

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Originally Posted by DerDrache View Post
Bringing this back on topic:

Does anyone know what the consequences are of not following Muslim law? In Christianity, you can ask for forgiveness for sins, since it's established that humans constantly sin. Is the same system in place in Islam?

In other words, when Muslims refuse to kill apostates and oppress women as dictated by the Koran and Hadith, what are the technical consequences?
Don't say the Koran or the Hadith dictates that you must oppress women. That's bullshit. I'm too lazy, but i'll give you this.

"O you who believe! It is not lawful for you that you should take women as heritage against (their) will, and do not straiten them in order that you may take part of what you have given them, unless they are guilty of manifest indecency; And treat them kindly; then if you hate them, it may be that you dislike a thing while Allah has placed abundant good in it."[Qur'an 4:19]

"...O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have taken them as your wives only under Allah's trust and with His permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers".


Keep in mind i'm not saying all muslims treat their women fairly. I'm telling you what the koran says.

Anyway, the consequence of not following gods word is obviously winding up in hell. I think the way it works in traditional islam is that all your good deeds and bad deeds are tallied up, then weighed on judgement day. I don't think you need to pray for forgiveness per se, but Allah will supposedly forgive if you if you repent. It's a more personal thing in Islam, you don't need to be forgiven by any kind of religious leader.

They made the analogy that there is an angel on each of your shoulders, and one counts the good deeds, one counts the bad.
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