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Old 2009-01-04, 12:33
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Originally Posted by redzed View Post
I believe there cannot be nothing so there must be something! That something is one thing, as in - totally connected! There cannot be any gaps or 'nothing' to seperate us from each and all. There cannot be nothing, that is an absolute nothingness, therefore the fundamentalist xian image of a righteous and pure God who exists elsewhere, seperate from this sinful dimension, and who created the universe out of nothing cannot be true. How is it possible for fundamentalist xian god to create a universe seperate from him/her self? An ancient philosopher said if horses had gods they would look and act like horses, that seems the way it is. Humans make images/descritions of god/s except we seem to make them in our own image, our imagination.

Therein lies a quandary, how to describe the indescribable? If one was to say God is a spirit, or: God is Spirit what does that mean. Spirit, as in an individual incorporeal being without shape or form(whatever that is), or Spirit as: all being, the aggregate of sentience? None of those things can tell. All descriptions of God are inadequate. One can perhaps describe better what god is not.

God is not seperate from humanity, for what is it that would seperate? There cannot be nothing so it seems all that exists must be connected there cannot be any gaps so whatever god is and, whatever we are, we are all part of the one infinite something that exists everywhere because there cannot be a nowhere or a nothing.

Jesus is another quandary. Who to believe" Am I, along with the disciple Thomas, allowed the proof of checking out the wounds before making my decision? Why when Jesus was accused of blasphemy for saying he was the son of god did he reply: 'your own scriptures say' "You are Gods" 'so how can you kill me for saying I am the son of god'? Does that mean he was affirming that we are Gods?

The etymology of Jesus name interested me so looked it up in a dictionary and apparently one translation is that Jesus means: God is Help. That made sense because of the selfless things I see humans doing to help one another{and thinking of God in an abstract kind of way as the Logos, Word or Reason or as the highest or controlling principle}, it seemed the most pure expression of divinity I have seen, or felt, is the unconditional help humans give each other - especially in times of need.

A lot of my thoughts about god comes down to personal stuff. For example one time I was bushwalking and fell off a small mountain, after bouncing headlong off a couple of ledges I went face first over a cliff. From there I could see all the way to the bottom- roughly a couple hundred metres. Being sure I was going to die, thoughts sped thru my mind and I did as when the nightmares came in childhood and called out "Jesus". Shortly after my head smacked into the cliff face and the next bit's somewhat blurry but I recall coming to, caught by some bushes growing out the side of the mountain, suspended above the remaining 150 metres or so! The very first thought in my mind was a verse repeated three times in the bible: "Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved". And saved I was, when the selfless emergency service volunteers came in the middle of the night and dragged me up the side of the mountain with a rope!

IMHO We are all one, one reflection of infinite being in an infinite kaleidoscope of being, in infinite dimensions of being - because there cannot be 'nothing' so there must simply be an infinite totally connected something! That infinite being has consciousness and we are fractals of that consciousness. God is what we call the rest of our own greater being.

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That was a good read, man. If you only read one post this year...

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Originally Posted by MoneyBoxers14 View Post
& dont be a dick.
This is pretty much what most religions come down to.

As for my views, I've done some reading in my time (ya srsly!), books from some of the smartest people in history, none of who have been able to get any closer than I to God or disproving him. So I figure why waste my time, do I think I'm some kind of frigging genius that's gonna crack the coldest case ever? If any of you guys find God or the answer to life let me know, promise?
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