The number 7

[hewak]

So, most of us have probably seen the number 23? Seems that it's all coincidental that we see it in everyday life, and that we're not going to have a different fate after death than anyone else performing some bizarre 23 ritual. But that's besides the point. This thread is about why the number 7 is such a religious number, and why it should give clues as to tell apart fact from fiction.

Let's look at religion back in the day. The oldest religions all have something to do with astrology. Funny enough, this explains my point. These religions, (Romans, Greeks, Judaism, whatnot) and the religions spawned from them (Christianity, Islam, whatnot) will follow the same patterns. Patterns like symbols. The number 7 being common in almost every, if not all, religions. Why? Because as I said, many ancient religions are based on what was in the sky, or what gave the ancients their imagination. Planets. And how many planets can we see from earth with the human eye? Five, plus the sun and the moon. Seven. So is it not safe to say that the number seven when used in any religious text is purely a product of mythology and not of the real world?

Now saying this, please don't feel that because of this one aspect all religions must be wrong, that's not true. This thread covers one aspect, not every, and so should not be used to judge a religion as a whole.

[-SpectraL]

The number seven represents completeness. The number six represents incompleteness. No mystery there.

[hewak]

How so? Like how is the number 7 related to completeness or incompleteness, and where does this interpretation originate?

[One_way_mirror]

Originally Posted by hewak

Now saying this, please don't feel that because of this one aspect all religions must be wrong, that's not true. This thread covers one aspect, not every, and so should not be used to judge a religion as a whole.

So... what's the point of it then?

[hewak]

Originally Posted by One_way_mirror

So... what's the point of it then?

Well if the source of the number 7 as a holy number is actually just based on stars, then would this not prove that when it's contained in a story as part of a religion, that that story is falsified?

[naive_wisdom]

Originally Posted by hewak

The oldest religions all have something to do with astrology.... These religions, (Romans, Greeks, Judaism, whatnot) and the religions spawned from them (Christianity, Islam, whatnot) will follow the same patterns. Patterns like symbols. The number 7 being common in almost every, if not all, religions.

Interesting, can you provide evidence?

[Thunderhammer]

Originally Posted by hewak

Well if the source of the number 7 as a holy number is actually just based on stars, then would this not prove that when it's contained in a story as part of a religion, that that story is falsified?

You could say so, but i'm sure they would come up with something.

Infact they'd probably say something along the lines of 'God left the planets there as a sign to those who looked for him' or some rhetoric like that.

The idea isn't to just falsify the story, that will just leave it open to excuses.

If you found something along the lines of 'The original author of the bible was a crack-addict', then people might take notice.

[dopeboy23]

Well the number 7 might relate to the seven planes of existence. Google it my friend

[hewak]

Originally Posted by dopeboy23

Well the number 7 might relate to the seven planes of existence. Google it my friend

I read about that before, and found it really interesting, but then if that was so, why would the number seven be reused in other religious beliefs, in other context, for example, the seven heads of the beast, or the 7 deaths caused by Cain, the 7 days the flood lasts in the Sumerian and Assyrian flood myth, or the seven gates of hell?

[hewak]

Originally Posted by naive_wisdom

Interesting, can you provide evidence?

Which part did you want evidence for?