co2 gas whats the big idea to save us all!!!

[Galgamech]

Originally Posted by CBUM

If cold fusion where possible than it would occur in nature.

It probably does. Its a big universe

[warrulz]

Originally Posted by Galgamech

Its a big universe

Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, which established the relationship between matter, space, time and gravity, governs modern cosmology's view of the universe. But when Einstein began to apply his theory to the structure of the universe, he was dismayed to find that it predicted either an expanding or contracting universe--something entirely incompatible with the prevailing notion of a static universe. In what he would later call "the greatest blunder of my life," Einstein added a term called the cosmological constant to his equations that would make his calculations consistent with a static universe.

Einstein admitted his mistake in 1929 when Edwin Hubble showed that distant galaxies were, indeed, receding from the earth, and the further away they were,the faster they were moving. That discovery changed cosmology.

[xanda]

Originally Posted by warrulz

Albert Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, which established the relationship between matter, space, time and gravity, governs modern cosmology's view of the universe. But when Einstein began to apply his theory to the structure of the universe, he was dismayed to find that it predicted either an expanding or contracting universe--something entirely incompatible with the prevailing notion of a static universe. In what he would later call "the greatest blunder of my life," Einstein added a term called the cosmological constant to his equations that would make his calculations consistent with a static universe.

Einstein admitted his mistake in 1929 when Edwin Hubble showed that distant galaxies were, indeed, receding from the earth, and the further away they were,the faster they were moving. That discovery changed cosmology.

Ye, I read that in Bill Bryson - A Short History of Nearly Everything. Its a good book in my opinion.

The bit that interests me is the comprehension of the shape of space and the theory of what will happen at the end. Weather the Universe will continue to expand until everything falls apart because it covers a too vast area for gravity to hold it together. Or if it will slow until it starts to shrink again, until it crushes back to pre-big bang(or what ever you would call it). I think there are some other theory's (other than religions ones) but I'm can't remember them...

[alexgmcm]

Originally Posted by deus-redux

I think you'll find it hard to get in with your life, at least as you know it, if you don't have petrol (gas for you yanks) in your car.

This isn't a doubtable thing like global warming. Anyone who says fossil fuels aren't going to run out is fucking dumb.

-deus-

Indeed. And that is when they run out. Prior to that happening the West will be almost held to ransom for the oil as it becomes more and more valuable. Coal isn't paticuarly reliable either especially after Thatcher and the Miner's strike killed off all of the UK's coal mining industry.

I think we need Nuclear Fusion, not just because of Global Warming, which some people refuse to believe, but because of the scarcity of other fuels.

[gforce]

Originally Posted by alexgmcm

Indeed. And that is when they run out. Prior to that happening the West will be almost held to ransom for the oil as it becomes more and more valuable. Coal isn't paticuarly reliable either especially after Thatcher and the Miner's strike killed off all of the UK's coal mining industry.

I think we need Nuclear Fusion, not just because of Global Warming, which some people refuse to believe, but because of the scarcity of other fuels.

fusion ey? yes it would cure most of our energy woes and infact it would cure most problems if it's as good as some people say. Sadly (or not sadly?) it won't ever get of the ground fully. Once climate change/FFdepletion gets into full swing the investment/resources etc needed for a project on this scale would just not be there.

On another note peak oil/gas is probably going to create atleast in the short-medium term a much worse environment than today. As soon as people can't buy fuel for there homes they are going to go out and find whatever they can to burn. Environmental regulations will be ignored as we try to maintain the 'status quo'. It's going to get a lot worse before its going to get better.

[thizz all day]

Who gives a flying fuck about your cabinets, and fuck all those other corporations.

Billion dollar companies yet none of them even bother to help the rest of the world, I'm greedy too but goddamn not like that. Why are you even worried about gas? Are you fucking retarded? The way this planet is going it doesn't look like we're going to last much past 2050 and all you care about is shipping cabinets? Get real

We are far enough into the future where we should of done discovered a much better alternative to fossil fuels.

[Revolution]

Originally Posted by thizz all day

We are far enough into the future where we should of done discovered a much better alternative to fossil fuels.

you can thank capitalism for that, oil is just too profitable

[Glasgowsweeman]

Something to break to you.
Global warming is BULLSHIT!
The polar ice caps need to melt for us to get out of the last ice age.
This is scientific fact.
It is also scientific fact that, whilst some land will be lost, more land will be habitable.
So, lets just ride it out.

[Dark_Magneto]

Originally Posted by xanda

Why CO2 Isn't The Cause Of Global Warming

Then we drill some ice cores and what do we find?

400,000 years of positive correlation between CO2 levels and temperature.



CO2 is a proven greenhouse gas, temperature goes up as CO2 concentrations increase, 'nuff said.

Originally Posted by Glasgowsweeman

It is also scientific fact that, whilst some land will be lost, more land will be habitable.

Habitable in the sense that the Gobi is habitable because there are chinese nomads living out there.

[gforce]

Originally Posted by Dark_Magneto

Then we drill some ice cores and what do we find?

400,000 years of positive correlation between CO2 levels and temperature.



CO2 is a proven greenhouse gas, temperature goes up as CO2 concentrations increase, 'nuff said.



Habitable in the sense that the Gobi is habitable because there are chinese nomads living out there.

just a comment on that graph, is it only me that notices the temperature peaks then the CO2 conc peaks? (ie the co2 level rises after the temperature does and starts falling after the temp does?

Just a comment,