How to get laid, look good, have friends etc

[Trapped In A Box]

Originally Posted by chumpion

Dude,

Reading "The Game", and logging onto the Fast Seduction forum does not make you an expert on women.

Your advice is great, but virtually word for word from these two sources.

I don't know how old you are, or what your situation is, but you have been on here for a while, so you are probably a pretty decent guy.

Just get some new sources - these ones are getting old, and most readers would appreciate something a little original....

Everything here is written from what's in my own knowledge. It sounds like you logged onto some weird seduction sites and aren't having the success you want so you're bitter at me. If you really care - go ahead and google my posts, and see if it leads to a source i'm copying from.

Or you could share any of your own problems with me and I can help you out

[Trapped In A Box]

Originally Posted by Durell

Well, I used to model and I'm an actor... done a large number of models and actresses. Been in the seduction community for quite a while and know a fuckload of the material. C&F was never a focus of mine because most of that came naturally, it was the understanding of the M3 model and realising what you should talk about and when, that developed me from the occasional HB9 to HB9s and 10s every fortnight.

Like most people, if I'm in a situation, I can't give an objective and honest analysis of it... especially when I'm emotionally enraptured. So, my problem is one that, if I bothered posting it on the community's forums, would get me bludgeoned to death for 'one-itis'. I've basically met someone who's most likely an objective HB7-7.5 and I find them more compelling than anyone I've ever met before and don't want to fuck it up. Next time you're on msn I'd like to discuss it.

Basically, I don't think I can socially proof her with HB9s and such without blowing myself out. It's in a university environment. I'm considering a screening opener variant of 'Do you know why you suck?', then going smoothly into the explanation so I don't get the whole 'You've negged a red/yellow', blow out. But yeah, completely fucking confused.

Edit: One issue and worry is that I usually find your HB9s and HB10s are single. Your HB7s (are they even HB's?) are often taken. I've never used or looked that much into the whole boyfriend destroyer routines, especially after thinking that TD's patterns seem fucking pathetic. So there may be difficulty with the screening opener -- may get me a straight up blow-out, depending on the girl. However, since we're not in a similar physical league, if I don't go direct it may not hook enough interest... since the only time to talk to her is a brief window from our class to her car.

Yeah man, it's fucking weird isn't it? I'm adverse to approaching less attractive girls than the more attractive, because I know 9s and 10s are a sure thing. I wouldn't run material on this girl. At the same time, you're talking dangerously here.. "I don't want to fuck it up" is common of oneitis, and what it does is put you in a state where you're afraid to say what comes into your head. Everything that you think of is vetoed for one reason or another because you "don't want to screw up your chances" and you're only left with boring stuff. She decides you're not worth talking to and moves on.

Even though you seem against it, social proof will work for you really well. Just her seeing you around laughing and joking with hot girls will be enough by itself for her to become attracted. If you don't have her number then that's the first step. Open, attract, close, wait a few days, set something up and take it from there. Lay back, be cocky and funny, bust her balls, say whatever comes into mind, comment on your surroundings, and she WILL fall for you because she's used to guys getting all flustered, boring, overanalytical, nervous, and worked up because they think she's so amazing and beautiful and oh my god can I please take you out some time.

The less you try to impress, the more of an impression you'll make.

[chumpion]

Originally Posted by Trapped In A Box

Everything here is written from what's in my own knowledge. It sounds like you logged onto some weird seduction sites and aren't having the success you want so you're bitter at me. If you really care - go ahead and google my posts, and see if it leads to a source i'm copying from.

Or you could share any of your own problems with me and I can help you out

Fair enough..

Whats the best way to pick up a waitress then?

EDIT:

Actually, now I read through your old posts, I see where your source is.

Folks - read www.fastseduction.com/guide.

When your done there, read some of the posts on the forums there. Look out for articles from David Shade, Maniac High, Mr Smooth, Svengali, and a couple of other old timers there

Both Durell and Trapped in a Box have read these, and now they are experts.

Durell - you're not in Sydney are you? I'm sometimes looking for a wing that actually knows what the score is......

lol....

[Trapped In A Box]

Originally Posted by chumpion

Fair enough..

Whats the best way to pick up a waitress then?

Shit loads of ways man. I assume you've read The Game, so you know Zans cocky funny waitress technique.

The thing with waitresses is, you can just flirt around with them and come back later. You don't have to worry because she's always going to be there, so you can build up gradually. Some funny things to do are - when she makes a mistake, throw your hands in despair and get really pissed. When she writes in the notebook, ask to see it, comment a persons handwriting says a lot about them, then hand it back. General cocky/funny with flirting over a period of time is what does it - If you ask for her number the first time, she's going to think it's weird and reject you, so build up.

There are some really funny lines around for waitresses, just google it.

[Trapped In A Box]

Originally Posted by Durell

Well, as it's university, I may have fucked up in a way that I'd never do in clubs. I think she's noticed me eyeing her over the course of 3 weeks. I feel like I have to resort to the Tao of Steve, bullshit: be Desireless, be Excellent, be Gone.

So, even a casual cold approach at this point may be pre-telegraphed. I'm almost always on at night, but I fucking hate uni and my day-game is shot to shit... if she has realised my intent, I don't know what'll happen. Still, since she's a HB7-7.5, I may just be able to do the Badboy approach kinda thing (hence the fucking awesome screening 'Do you know why you suck?' opener).

Hmmm, you read Magic Bullets yet? Great stuff. Bridges the Opener to DHV'ing a lot better than the standard M3 model.

Yes, Savoy is a great guy. He isn't like the other "gurus" and just tells everything straight, no tacky marketing and shit. My only concern is that if you start using material you'll feel like you have to keep up the image of the interesting fun guy, try too hard and get blown out. I've seen it way too many times in comparison to the guys who just lay back and don't even try. Make sure you balance it out. It's a fine line you're walking since you've assigned yourself a hypnotic command in "I don't want to fuck things up." Most of all, make sure that you continue to game other women until you're in a relationship and don't get obsessed. I've had oneitis shit loads of times. Good luck with it.

[CHUPAVER]

Apparently I do all of this stuff when i'm drunk. Except I hit on about 4's or 5's thinking they're of course 8's or 9's. Usually I get the furthest wen I can remember the least. lulz

Either way alcohol helps a lot. Cheers!

[Stiffmajj The Giant]

I just wanted to get your opinion my situation:

Basiclly there's this girl (how it always starts.....) she's in one of my classes and long story short we get on really well, we have so much stuff in common it's wierd and I don't say so because it would seem like I'm making it up and we have had some flirtatious moments. I added her on msn and we talked for about 4 hours.

The problem when we first started getting to know each other she started to go out with this other guy who is really good friends with my friends but I don't know him really well.

The problem she is in the year below me and I'm in the last year of school so #i have about 7 weeks to wait hoping she breaks up with the other guy

The thing is she has quite low self esteem (even though she has no reason to) and I think she may have said yes because of that.

I mean I've subtly expressed interest and she has responded well, but do you think I should express interest while shes still going out or wait until she is available.

[Atticus_Ellis]

My problem:
I'm really arrogent and smart arsed.
I find it really funny though even though I know that other people don't.
When I try and pick up a chick, my method is that I usally start talking to them on msn. I like msn because I can think before I say anything. Then I'll ask them out, and so on and it's good from there. But If I'm trying to meet someone out, then I always can't find the line between being an asshole, and being witty.


Also I have another problem.
(Read this thread first) http://www.totse.com/community/showthread.php?t=1988069
This girl and I were getting on really well but it didn't work because of her friend hated me.
The girl and her friend recently had a massive arguement and I had a long talk with her friend and now we're cool with each other.
What can I do now because I still have feeling for this girl...

[sylph]

If you all honestly want decent, respectable women, stop spending your life on Totse and relying on abunch of people's opinions/advice you don't know to make you confident or content with who you are, that take none of their own advice and are in the same state as you.

What Trapped is telling you will work, it's the basic psychology behind women, but in reality we're not difficult. The moment you know you're better, is the moment you get pussy. Stop worrying about minor details.

Majority of you are grown college men, that to me is pathetic. At least choose a better web forum with a little less dumbasses.

[Violent Monotreme]

My problem isn't really in my approach or that I am too ugly,/boring it is that there really are no good looking girls at my college. I go to a technical school that focuses on nature oriented technologies (forestry, wildlife management...etc). I take Archaeology and there are FOUR other girls in my major and they all wiegh more than I do (I weigh a solid 205)!

Thing is that I am a 10 minute drive away from a major party school. I have a few friends up there but most of the time I go up there I only get high and hag out with them or a few other friends. All within the same sort of social cirlce. I am only 19 so I can't hit bars yet. I just don't know where to meet girls. I know there are plenty around but where am I supposed to go to meet them?

I just find it akward to walk around aimlessly in the town... I don't have money to go to the shops. I am not much of a dancer. Plus I live out of town.

I am not really hot or anything but I would say I am at least average looking. I am tall and work out on a daily basis at least( only thing I am self concious abiout is I have mild acne). Keep in mind that I am not looking for one night stands. I am really interested in finding a girlfriend or at least a girl that I will see more than once. Main question is where to look.

Any advice you could give is greatly appreciated.