Fruit fuel

[ArgonPlasma2000]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6224846.stm

And it has higher energy density AND OCTANE than ethanol. Really sweet stuff here. The main drawback cited in the article is cost of refineries (which is 10 times ethanol refineries ). I'd love to see the net energy transfer in the process.

The octane might even be high enough to run it in a diesel engine or a thermal-ignition gasoline engine.

[shitty wok]

Then the cost of fruit will skyrocket sadly. If we are to make food crops into fuel, we will have to make sacrifices.

[ArgonPlasma2000]

Originally Posted by shitty wok

Then the cost of fruit will skyrocket sadly. If we are to make food crops into fuel, we will have to make sacrifices.

Its better to have fruit rise than corn. Not too many people, even considering the entire globe, have diets consisting of nothing but fruit.

But, yea, sacrifices will need to be made. Hell, sacrifices can be made NOW with ur gasoline infrastructure and we would be much better off. Only when people realize that you cant have cake and eat it will this work.

[RAOVQ]

fruit need a shitload of water. they are expensive to harvest and we already have issues with food distribution. there are also issues with spoilage, it would have to be distilled soon after harvesting, shipping it for two months isn't really doable.

not to mention seasons that would create only one lot of fuel per year.

it seems like a really bad idea. the mere specuation of corn produced alcohol is causing corn shortages in latin american countries, imagine what would happen when farmers in poor areas find they can get more money selling to BP.

[Soda_Can_Sniper]

No shit, food prices are skyrocketing, and we haven't even started making fuel out of it.

Corn costs $.50 an ear at the supermarket across the street. A head of iceberg is over a dollar. Meat prices bounce around as much as gas stations' prices do. This is standard grade market meat, not good butcher meat either.

Foodfuels, with the exception of using waste products, is not the way to go. In addition to creating energy, better storage mediums need to be developed.

People's consumption has to be culled for it to work. I'm almost tempted to say local governments should think about temporary blackouts, or even try alloted energy (like phones do minutes).

[Lacedwithdelight]

haven't they invented some chemical to make fruit stay fresh up till twelve months?
I remember something about it in the papers.

[gunjah]

Originally Posted by ArgonPlasma2000

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6224846.stm

The octane might even be high enough to run it in a diesel engine or a thermal-ignition gasoline engine.

If thats the case then why not just use vegetable oil/bio-diesel? After all, it is much cheaper and simpler to make oil.