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mrgrape2 2008-11-10 20:54

How to formulate a good argument?
 
K so im going to be writing an essay about the difference between class of rich and poor.
but i was wondering what are some good ways to formulate your argument?
so pretty much how do u make ur argument stronger and a really good one?

DerDrache 2008-11-10 20:59

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
What is your argument?

Danny JMC 2008-11-12 04:41

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
Do a heap of research on your specific topic and see where the information takes you. Based on that research, formulate an argument and several points (depending on your word length) that create your argument (ie; what made you formulate your argument from the research).

Your introduction should begin with brief background on the topic and why it is important to scholarly debate. Then go into a brief outline of where the essay is going to go (whose works you have used in your research, the points you will be making), and finally conclude the introduction with your argument thesis.

The body of your essay will be created through the use of the points you are making. These points should solidly back up your argument. For example if you're arguing that there is an extreme difference in background of low and upper class, then one of your points could be education and draw on findings of scholars who have researched the education levels of the two classes. Each paragraph should be a few hundred words and thus the word limit will influence how many points you make.

Your conclusion will sum up all your points and give the reader the reason why you are concluding [your argument]. Your rationale should be logical, concise and reasonable.

IMPORTANT NOTE: No sweeping statements! You can't just state some bullshit claim and not have it backed up by a credible source. Every point you make has to be based on a credible scholars work.

Also, I like to use rhetorical questions. They sound smart and are like lecturer crack.

Just a thought or two.

The Methematician 2008-11-15 20:27

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
Take it from the smartest person in totse* :

make your argument into a B&M, ---> post it in B&M ---> ??? --> profit.

the essentials of argument : bitch, moan, flame, complain.

*---according to an independent research conducted by an independent researcher.

whocares123 2008-11-16 01:01

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
Don't ignore arguments that go against your conclusions. Bring other viewpoints in, and provide evidence to disprove them. Provide evidence to prove them too, but then show that the evidence is bad or wrong. Get balls deep into that shit.

Hare_Geist 2008-11-16 12:56

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by whocares123 (Post 10683489)
Don't ignore arguments that go against your conclusions. Bring other viewpoints in, and provide evidence to disprove them. Provide evidence to prove them too, but then show that the evidence is bad or wrong. Get balls deep into that shit.

This guy is right. Your notes should look something like this.

mkrwii 2008-11-20 22:52

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny JMC (Post 10670885)
Also, I like to use rhetorical questions. They sound smart and are like lecturer crack.

Depends heavily on the lecturer. My experience is that a majority of lecturers don't like them.
A basic 3-5-essay will normally do the trick with most lecturers, even those who don't know them. Unless you're doing a course in rhetoric or such, then you should stick to whatever your lecturers tell you.

Corbett's "Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student" is great, tells in depth how to argument well.

The Methematician 2008-11-27 08:17

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrwii (Post 10704414)
Corbett's "Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student" is great, tells in depth how to argument well.

That is sooooo stupid. People who don't know how to argue and relied on books and others have no right to argue....at all.

They should just shut up, open their mouth, say rrr and suck the incoming dick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slave of the Beastiality (Post 10730246)
Watch how BSK formulates his arguments, then do the exact opposite.

Or,...alternately, you can emulate what Slave of the Bestiality does all the time by :

[a] look at your opponent straight in the eyes and say :

"this counter argument/research data/ is hidden because [your opponent] is in your ignore list" and snickers

[b] call your opponent a troll and infuse your opponent's name with the word "troll".

Example :

Name of your opponent : Einstien + troll = Einstroll. :)

wolfy_9005 2008-11-27 08:43

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
^Normal person?

To make a good argument you need a good statement. Such as "all trolls are bad". You could argue this as yes they are and say how they've ruined multiple threads/etc.

Or make it how they give everyone a joke from time to time.

It depends on your perspective as to wether or not you have a good argument.

Is your question going to be something like "Rich people are always white" or "Poor people consist of both white and black" or "Rich people are generally smarter". You need a question or else you can have no answers.

The Methematician 2008-11-27 08:53

Re: How to formulate a good argument?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfy_9005 (Post 10731447)
^Normal person?

To make a good argument you need a good statement. Such as "all trolls are bad". You could argue this as yes they are and say how they've ruined multiple threads/etc.

Or make it how they give everyone a joke from time to time.

It depends on your perspective as to wether or not you have a good argument.

Is your question going to be something like "Rich people are always white" or "Poor people consist of both white and black" or "Rich people are generally smarter". You need a question or else you can have no answers.

the highlighted word alone forfeits your right to argue. kindly refrain from getting into any argument in the future; thank you....


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