not flaming here btw.

If there was no god or anything how did the universe begin. If you say it never began and will never end, why is the concept of god so hard?

SHUT UP. HOLY FUCK. Did the thought that this MAY HAVE BEEN REPEATED A HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES ever enter your head?



[This message has been edited by Iscariot2 (edited 06-09-2003).]

the same way you ask that, i could just as easily ask you the ''opposite'' question.

theists believe that god was the first to create the first. (if that doesn't make sense, it means that if you trace everything that exists today, back to one single thing, you'd call that very first thing, ''god.'') this argument is called the argument of the ''first cause.''

now, from an atheist's point of view, if there can be one thing which spawned everything else into existence, you might as well consider it the universe, instead of god. if god doesn't need to have a creator, why does the universe?

[i apologize, if by ''giving this question the time of day'' i've encouraged spam. i personally haven't seen the question asked before, but (in case it's not obvious), i'm new.]



[This message has been edited by humble (edited 06-09-2003).]

WELL HOLY FUCKING SHIT ISCARIOT!!! MY GOOD GOD. WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION GOMER PYLE!! FUCK YOU TOO DUDE. IVE NEVER SEEN THIS QUESTION ASKED. FUCK OFF DUDE

You must be FUCKING RETARDED if you didn't think this topic has been done a million times already.

Go sit in the corner bitch. You flame others for having a somewhat legit topic, but you're blind when it concerns your self.

I have a question for you, how did god begin? Answer it! Ok, now that is my answer.

Edit: Sorry for sort of stealing your comment. Humble, I completely agree.

[This message has been edited by Volo (edited 06-09-2003).]

Because the universe hasn't been endowed with distinctly human characteristics.

Because belief in the universe hasn't been the basis of almost every society known. (Well, not until recently)

Because people don't tell me the universe dangles a carrot and carries a stick.

The list goes on...

One word...

Big Bang.

i cant tell you that how god was made, and you cant tell me how the universe was, so how do you know you are right. basically im saying that if you cant find the origin of life in your "religion" (dont know what to call athiesm, beliefs maybe?) then why do you go around proclaiming the truth or whatever. Lots of athiests seem to go apeshit if a christian says theyre going to hell because theres no proof. But theres no proof for being athiest either so wtf...

Iscariot,

If you read that dudes post you piece of shit, it said that he basically wanted you to repeat back to him what he said so that he could make sure you where listening. Basically being a mommy. So fuck yes i told him to shut the fuck up, and so should your bitch ass.