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So, I need the answer to Who Cains wife was, before my head explodes.
http://www.carm.org/diff/Gen4_17.htm
that dosent work!
EDIT: How many brothers and sisters did cain and abel have?
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Viraljimmy
2006-01-26, 13:28
Nod was another nation. There were already people there. That's where he found a wife.
Digital_Savior
2006-01-27, 02:16
Snoopy: No, Lilith, Schtupit.
Anyway, to the OP: Adam and Eve had LOTS and lots of children, per God's commandments to be fruitful and multiply and fill up the earth.
Yes, there was incest (for those of you who are immature enough to hyperfocus on this aspect), but it hardly mattered back then since genetically human beings were perfect.
I am sure something spiritual was in effect to prevent mutations and such as well, but the Bible doesn't really get into it.
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great_sage=heaven
2006-01-27, 07:00
Damn I envy blind faith...
fined_mind
2006-01-27, 08:24
able? that name is always associated with cain.
quote:Originally posted by Digital_Savior:
Snoopy: No, Lilith, Schtupit.
Lol, you believe in Vampires!
MasterPython
2006-01-27, 08:28
quote:Originally posted by Snoopy:
Wasn't Cain a Vampire?
That's Judas. From that one gospel that he doe'nt kill himself at the end people think he is a vampire.
quote:Originally posted by bushy:
So, I need the answer to Who Cains wife was, before my head explodes.
http://www.carm.org/diff/Gen4_17.htm
that dosent work!
EDIT: How many brothers and sisters did cain and abel have?
A very good question. Some believe that cain met someone from another land who were not a part of his family, while others who hardcore believe the bible word for word say this isn't possible do to that fact that at that time only Adam & Eve ,Cain & Able were suppost to be the only humans alive.
Now this simply doesn't fit either because cain was deathly affraid that others who found him would try to kill him. Who where these others? Now it has also been put forth that Adam & Eve had alot more children at that time than was actually talked about and cain took one of his sisters as a wife.
The church is extremely against this line of thinking ,because that would mean he commited incest which is suppost to be a very big No-No in God's eyes. Althought if you believe the story is based soley on facts and Adam & Eve had some children and that there weren't any others, then the only avenue for their childrens procreation open to them was incest, Because no where in that story does it say God gave their first borns the ability to self procreate in order to avoid the sin of Incest. So here we are with one of the many inconsistencies in the bible.
He either commits incest or there are other people besides Adam & Even. If there are others then part of the story of Adam & Eve is a lie.
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well, my point is. Is
A. if he found someone else, then that disproves the bible.
B. If it was incest why werent these children written about till later? It only talks about two of them, so that means that A must be true.
OR Nod, which translates to "the land of the wanderers" would mean that there were other "people" like those not in eden... Nomads?
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well incest wasn't a sin until later
soo, god changed the rules?
what are you talking about, it wasn't written as a law that incest was sinful until later. Since there weren't enough people around back then you had to screw your cousin BUT since there were enough people later then and they noticed that incest brought deformations and shit like that, incest was made sinful .
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THATS RIDICULES! thats extremely absurd and... what language did adam and eve speak? English?
MasterPython
2006-01-28, 06:11
quote:Originally posted by bushy:
soo, god changed the rules?
There was a pretty big rule change when Jesus came around that is nothing.
Why cant I get a straight answer! Im starting to think the whole bible is metaphoric!
pikerfringe
2006-01-28, 18:46
quote:Originally posted by bushy:
Why cant I get a straight answer! Im starting to think the whole bible is metaphoric!
Starting to THINK and examining the bible don't go hand in hand. Anyone who takes the old testament as a literal history record has one serious mental problem.
Remember that the Bible itself is not a single written record passed from author to author. It is a collection or wriiten text from many authors. Don't forget that in all cases of life, the weakest link is always MAN.
Who decided what context was to be included and for that matter whose version? Look at the various descrepincies in the apostles telling of Jesus time on earth.
Do you seriouslly think that what you see now is the telling of our history without edit, omission, or "creative (convienent) liscense"??
Lets face it, if Eve was made of Adam's rib,, then that would mean a genetic sibling as the DNA would in effect make them twins and as such we are all decendents of incest>>>>>>>>>>>>
I am by no means an atheist, far from it. What a depressing thought to think that all the troubles of life are for nothing and that there isn't something out there awaiting us. That being said, to take scrolls that were collected, survived (notice no mention of NOAH ever taking with him any records of the prior times with him on the ark?????)) and then interpreted many times over from long lost dialects, to what we have now, that's just plain crazy.
If you believe in a higher power-creator, with unimaginable power inteligent to the point to provide us with all the amazing creatures and such not to mention the complexities of our universe and beyond, how can you think that we were meant (remember---IN HIS IMAGE) to take such words literally?
A child learns as both thier body and mind grow and can comprehend higher levals of thought and knowledge. Is it so far fetched that we as a newborn being didn't need explanitions, guidelines, and understandings of the puzzles of life??
If you believe then it takes faith. PERIOD.
Those that claim thier religion is right and all else are doomed to die are in need of some intense soul-searching.
Nearly every conflict between men and nations has been fought over religious affliation or belief.
Right now we are 'waging war' against those fanatical terrorists, yet we send our troops of to fight to the sound of "GOD BLESS AMERICA"!!! And they're fanatics.
Funny, how much bloodshed is spilled in the name of God.
Such is life though. Smoke and mirrors. Nitpicking and attempts and FACT-FINDING biblical text will find you running in circles. One of the key messages throughout is having ones FAITH tested. Doing our best as imperfect beings to live our lives in appreciation and respect for the fact that we have life to begin with.
Still want to FIND FACT?? Figure out just how big the ARK had to be to allow for all the different species of animals, insects, etc that exist today. If it was as large as the bible mentions (cubiths etc) then you must believe in evolution also as it would have been immpossible.
Who was Cain's wife? Why is it important? Might as well look into the explanation we have for all the various ethnic groups and languages that somehow all of a sudden popped up as a way to prevent the tower of Babel from being completed. An omnipotent creator had to confuse the people and create dissent to prevent one egotistical ruler from aspiring to be up high like the almighty himself??
Either that or it's one way to explain to the fragile minds of us humans who may have come in contact with a different race as exploration of the Earth brought us within different regions and therefore different races etc., just how this could be.
Could the people of that time comprehend that if they KNEW for a FACT that they decsended of ADAM and EVE, how they could possibly encounter an obviouslly differnt lineage?? Then that would mean the record they had at the time, which would become our wriiten collection called the bible, must NOT be accurate. Hence a NEED to Explain.
A man/woman are typically reasonable willing to listen/learn even adapt people. MAnkind in general are a riotous mob ever in need of proof and the desire to react, usually harshly, to any who hold a different view or belief.
Who was Cain's wife? Jeez, how the heck did a snake communicate with a human? How did the red sea part? How did Moses staff turn into serpents? And why did miracles seem to dissapear as modern understanding and technology and our comprehension of the Earth we live on expand?
Dunno.
Have faith that as with any creator of anything remotely complex as this world we live in would have immense pride and love for the fruit of thier labor, I'm sure (I hope!?) there is something better than the world we live in now. Imagine a world without any hope or faith. What would be the point. We'd have a society based in chaos. Fear/Faith,, funny how they both are used to keep us inline huh??????????
Just a thought.
Gorloche
2006-01-28, 19:55
quote:Originally posted by MasterPython:
That's Judas. From that one gospel that he doe'nt kill himself at the end people think he is a vampire.
If by "that one gospel," you mean, "Dracula 2000."
Millixion
2006-01-29, 22:50
How do you know he had a wife? Did he have kids? (I'm not a big bible student.)
This thread should've ended after Viraljimmy.
Dragonsthrone
2006-03-16, 22:12
Genisis 5:3-4 says, "When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image; and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had OTHER SONS AND DAUGHTERS." So Cain married one of his sisters. Humans were created phisically perfect, and not until Leviticus 18 did God say that having sex with immidiate family was wrong. He didn't change the rules, he just hadn't made them yet http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif (http://www.totse.com/bbs/smile.gif)
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