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Nidias_91
2005-12-09, 03:24
My two younger sisters (5 and 9 years old) go to a very PC public school. It thoroughly frustrates me that they can't have any sort of holidays in school. I'm sorry, but America is a white christian country, therefore we should celebrate white christian holidays. When I was in fourth grade, someone made a big deal about having a halloween party. Cmon' it's not even religeous anyways. I'm not even religeous, but I still think that we should celebrate Christmas, as it is the old standard anyways. It's not like he was born on Dec. 25 anyways.
TheLaUghiNgHeretic
2005-12-09, 04:29
I think we should just celebrate the Winter solstice in schools. It will be just like Christmas except it wont offend anybody.
I think so as well, I think the way they do it in elementry schools now, or majority anyways, they just throw a Christmas party and then if somebody else has a different ethnic background they put them in a different room to have a different party..which I thought was alright. I guess some people find it offensive, although I do agree that it's our countries sacrade ritual almost to celebrate Christmas for most of us. Them getting little kids into all of this shit isn't right
ArgonPlasma2000
2005-12-09, 05:37
I wonder... when was the last time that a child was offended by this sort of stuff? As far back as I can remember, its always the parents that are bitching.
MasterPython
2005-12-09, 07:32
quote:Originally posted by TheLaUghiNgHeretic:
I think we should just celebrate the Winter solstice in schools. It will be just like Christmas except it wont offend anybody.
It will ofend some Christians celebrating a pagan holiday. Even though they already celebrate it if it does not have Jesus there are people that will say it's Satanic.
My sister teaches at a school in North London that has only 3 kids of ethnic origin. 2 black 1 chinese. all christian
Due to the politically correct insanity of the local council the school has to have a holiday every year to celibrate Guru Nanaks birthday!!!
Who I think is hindu? ....Only in England!!!
We don't really need to celebrate holidays in school.
quote:Originally posted by Nidias_91:
I'm sorry, but America is a white christian country, therefore we should celebrate white christian holidays.
UP WITH THE THEOCRACY!
ManInBlack
2005-12-10, 05:41
quote:Originally posted by blutark:
My sister teaches at a school in North London that has only 3 kids of ethnic origin. 2 black 1 chinese. all christian
Due to the politically correct insanity of the local council the school has to have a holiday every year to celibrate Guru Nanaks birthday!!!
Who I think is hindu? ....Only in England!!!
That's like how here in the States we are forced to celebrate "Kwanzaa," a made up holiday with a name that means nothing to American blacks (Kwanzaa is a Swahili word, while most slaves were from West Africa) and rituals that are just plain dumb. For instance, corn is used in Kwanzaa ceremonies. First of all, no culture on earth holds a harvest celebration in December and second, corn was first cultivated by Mexicans and spread worldwide by whites.
Apparently, ultra-liberals think that misinformation and lies will boost minorities' self esteem.
NavySEAL
2005-12-11, 03:37
Wasn't Kwanzaa only invented in the '60's or something?
We had Halloween and Valentine's parties when I was in elementary school, I think. Craft-type-things on Mother's and Father's Days, and a present-shop type thing around Christmas. Various Earth-day-tree-planting-type things as well.
I second the notion about celebrating Winter solstice. Or they should just have a multi-cultural party and learn about all sorts of different cultures and eat cupcakes.
Paradise Lost
2005-12-11, 03:50
quote:Originally posted by Nidias_91:
I'm sorry, but America is a white christian country, therefore we should celebrate white christian holidays.
What are you retarded? What if (bear with me here this may get a little confusing), but what if there's a possibility that some tax payers out there don't share the same views as the Christians and thus shouldn't have to pay part of their money to have it in schools?
chubbyman25
2005-12-11, 11:07
People have to pay taxes to support public schools even if they don't believe in education. That has nothing to do with it. I think what we need to do is stop beinng so freaking politically correct and stop worrying about offending people. I don't necessarily think that there should be Christmas celebrations in school, but there's nothing wrong with having a Christmas tree or saying "Merry Christmas" or whatever. If anyone gets offended at that then they are just stupid.
quote:Originally posted by chubbyman25:
People have to pay taxes to support public schools even if they don't believe in education. That has nothing to do with it. I think what we need to do is stop beinng so freaking politically correct and stop worrying about offending people. I don't necessarily think that there should be Christmas celebrations in school, but there's nothing wrong with having a Christmas tree or saying "Merry Christmas" or whatever. If anyone gets offended at that then they are just stupid.
Taxes are voluntary.
You wouldn't be saying the same thing about being politically correct and offending people if you were a minority.
Say you're in a public school, and most of the kids there are Muslim. So, the school doesn't do anything for Christmas, and only does things for Ramadan. Are you going to be pissed off that your tax payer dollars are supporting this, oh my, HEATHEN religion?
Nagasaki911
2005-12-11, 19:41
when the kids start complaing ill start acting
until then parents need to shut the fuck up
what really grates me though is not doing the pledge of allegiance in school anymore, the schools should at least promote allegiance and then make it the kids individual choice
NightVision
2005-12-12, 03:52
quote:Originally posted by TheLaUghiNgHeretic:
I think we should just celebrate the Winter solstice in schools. It will be just like Christmas except it wont offend anybody.
That can be considered a pagan holiday...
The_Rabbi
2005-12-12, 10:27
No, it can't. It can be considered a celebration of the winter solstice, a natural phenomena/event.
I don't see why anybody on either side is getting upset over Christmas in schools. I don't complain about their celebrating Kwanzaa in schools, a very-recently fabricated holiday from the Black Panthers that espouses Communist ideals.
Hmmm, here in New Zealand, schools break off a few weeks before xmas, and then don't return till the end of jan (summer holidays) So generally we don't make a big fuss about xmas in schools. In primary school though, I do remember in the last few weeks of school making craft things like xmas decorations, cards etc. But we never touched upon the actual reason to xmas and the ideas behind it - which personally I think is a good thing - as 2 out of the 3 primary schools I went to were public and therefore religion in my opinion shouldn't be a subject touched upon there. It's the parents choice to educate there children about there choosen belief - NOT a public schools where the children could be from a variety of backgrounds.
I then went to my high school. An all girls public school. When ester came along me, along with most of my classmates (all the ones that were bought up with no religion, or had choosen to be athesit) were shocked when we had an 'easter' assemberly. We were read the story outta the bible of jesus how he died etc etc by the god nuts and the principal (who I assume was a church goer herself). By all means, if you believe that stuff, do what you will, but to bring it into a public school made me so mad - and a lot of my friends.
Experimental
2005-12-13, 01:09
Having the school fund christian based events completely undermines everything the country is based on.
However, I do not believe that kids and staff should be forbid from saying "christmas" or "halloween" as I have been. "Winter festival" and "Fall Festival", now.
NavySEAL
2005-12-13, 01:48
quote:Originally posted by Experimental:
Having the school fund christian based events completely undermines everything the country is based on.
However, I do not believe that kids and staff should be forbid from saying "christmas" or "halloween" as I have been. "Winter festival" and "Fall Festival", now.
Are you serious? That's...it's...do you live in some wackjob P.C.-land?
MasterPython
2005-12-13, 07:57
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:
No, it can't. It can be considered a celebration of the winter solstice, a natural phenomena/event.
Pagans call their holidays solstice so even though you would not be celebrating it in the traditional Pagan way people would concider it devil worship just like they concider Islam, Buhdism and sometimes even Judaism devil worship.
The_Rabbi
2005-12-13, 17:59
There's no such thing as a "pagan" religion, so there are no holidays for "pagans" to name.
The term solstice refers to the longest or shortest day of the year. In the case of the winter soltice, it's the shortest.
quote:Originally posted by Nagasaki911:
when the kids start complaing ill start acting
what really grates me though is not doing the pledge of allegiance in school anymore, the schools should at least promote allegiance and then make it the kids individual choice
We do the Pledge of Allegiance in school. Only on Mondays. However, the school NEVER said it before 9/11/01.
Instead of saying "under god", I say "under the Flying Spaghetti Monster", "under Bob", or "under your mom".
LostCause
2006-01-20, 11:36
It's a difficult subject. I'm of the opinion that the state and religion should be seperate. But, here is a situation where they inherently meet. Should you have religious holidays off? I believe so, but then that would be combining religion with politics.
It's complex.
Cheers,
Lost
monks3080
2006-01-22, 15:14
everyone who is saying that only the parents care in my 8th grade I called jewish people wierd for their philosiphies and then this kid who has lawyers for parents thought he could sue me. Then he made a huge deal about it to the conselors and somehow I made it seem cool to the retarted kid and then he started making fun of jewish people. So I got detention for two days and had to right a plan to make myself respect others religions better.
The point is that some rich snob ass kids do care about religion
NightVision
2006-01-22, 19:15
I think they should be abolished. All holidays. Go to school 180 days and get it over with.
The public education system is just a brainwashing system to start out with, so why try to bring even more brainwashing (religion and yes whatever atheists want to call their religion or lack thereof) into it?