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The people who take pleasure from misery (Yes, They exist)
What do those who beleive in heaven and hell have to say about this? Where do they go? I assume hell would be the equivilent of heaven for them. comments? I just thought of this and I'm very interested.
whatever it is its not what they take pleasure in.
also, i think their pleasure in pain has a pretty quick limit.
[This message has been edited by Zman (edited 11-26-2005).]
TweEeKeR
2005-11-27, 06:18
quote:Originally posted by Zman:
whatever it is its not what they take pleasure in.
also, i think their pleasure in pain has a pretty quick limit.
Pain does not have limits for everyone. Seriously.
"People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bullshit. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain." -Jim Morrison, The Doors
The_Rabbi
2005-11-27, 08:59
They probably are trapped in an endless void, complete alone in the dark for eternity.
The thought of that terrifies me.
Fai1safe
2005-11-27, 09:39
Lol not every phsyco in the world is like that because they were raped, or had bad parents, or were locked in closets all their lives or bullied. Some people just naturaly see what they do as right and have different morals and belifs but who are you to say that what you percive as reality and morality is correct?
The_Rabbi
2005-11-27, 10:26
You have got to be kidding me.
AngryFemme
2005-11-27, 11:58
If hell is earth, let it be written that I believe I can cope with it. It's not so bad. It's all in the perspective. Having a sense of humor helps, too. I'm fully acclimated.
Hell to me would be the pervasion of knowledge, the censorship of free thought and the binding that ties most people to their faith. I want to be free to change my mind whenever I feel like it. I never want to feel guilt or remorse for thinking outside of common belief.
Lou Reed
2005-11-27, 12:11
quote:Originally posted by TweEeKeR:
Pain does not have limits for everyone. Seriously.
"People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bullshit. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain." -Jim Morrison, The Doors
Pain is limited only in the same way that joy is partial...
POWER by Jim Morrison
I can make the earth stop in
its tracks. I made the
blue cars go away.
I can make myself invisible or small.
I can become gigantic & reach the
farthest things. I can change
the course of nature.
I can place myself anywhere in
space or time.
I can summon the dead.
I can perceive events on other worlds,
in my deepest inner mind,
& in the minds of others.
I can
I am
People need Connectors
Writers, heroes, stars, leaders
To give life form.
A child's sand boat facing
the sun.
Plastic soldiers in the miniature
dirt war. Forts.
Garage Rocket Ships
Ceremonies, theatre, dances
To reassert Tribal needs & memories
a call to worship, uniting
above all, a reversion,
a longing for family & the
safety magic of childhood
The grand highway
is
crowded
w/
lovers
&
searchers
&
leavers
so
eager
to
please
&
forget.
Wilderness
Now is blessed
The rest
remembered
A man rakes leaves into
a heap in his pard, a plie,
& leans on his rake &
burns them utterly.
The fragrance fills the forest
children pause & heed the
smell, which will become
nostalgia in several years
Sirens
Water
Rain & Thunder
Jet from the base
Hot searing insect cry
The frogs & crickets
Doors open & close
The smash of glass
The Soft Parade
An accident
Rustle of silk, nylon
Watering the dry grass
Fire
Bells
Rattlesnake, whistles, castanets
Lawn mower
Good Humor man
Skates & wagons
Bikes
Where'd you learn about
Satan-out of a book
Love?-out of a box
night of sin (The Fall)
-1st sex, a feeling of having
done this same act in time before
O No, not again
Between childhood, boyhood,
adolescence
& manhood (maturity) there
should be sharp lines drawn w/
Tests, deaths, feats, rites
stories, songs, & judgements
Men who go out on ships
To escape sin & the mire of cities
watch the placenta of evening stars
from the deck, on their backs
& cross the equator
& perform rituals to exhume the dead
dangerous initiation
To mark passage to new levels
To feel on the verge of an exorcism
a rite of passage
To wait, or seek manhood
enlightenment in a gun
To kill childhood, innocence
in an instant
HellzShellz
2005-11-27, 12:59
I've heard it put like this..
Earth is the only Hell a believer in Christ will ever know; and the only Heaven an unbeliever will ever know.
As for people who enjoy pain. Self-inflicted? Self-infilcted pain, when I was obsessed with it, was because it was PAIN that I had control over. It was pain that I wanted and I got HOW I wanted it. If I wanted someone else to inflict it on me, I was still having this false sense of control thing going on.
The way I was with that, Beat me, cut me, cause me any type of physical pain you wish, just don't hurt me emotionally.
As for emotional pain.. I don't think there is ANYONE who actually LOVES or ENJOYS emotional pain. They might like to cause others emotional pain, but I'm sure they don't take too kindly to having it done back to them.
I'm not saying it's something anyone should do, I'm not going into demon possession either, but yeah.
xtreem5150ahm
2005-11-27, 15:44
quote:Originally posted by TweEeKeR:
Pain does not have limits for everyone. Seriously.
"People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that's bullshit. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they're afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they're wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It's all in how you carry it. That's what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you're letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain." -Jim Morrison, The Doors
As i read this, about halfway through, i said to myself, "this person has a fucked up sense of reality" (and, as i read it, i was thinking it was TweEeKeR... sorry).... when i got to the bottom, and found that it was Morrison...well, point made.
They go to a psychiatrist, if they don't cut themselves to death first.
has anyone seen the movie hell raiser.. That movie was retarded until you get to the very last part, then it was sooo creepy.
I know a girl who seriously cannot live unless she believes she's living in hell. She is absolutely miserable when she doesn't suffer, and she complains that she feels like her life sucks when she doesn't have the chance of wailing and crying about how she's miserable.
I hate people like that. That's massochism, I guess.
Anyway, I'm with Sartre: "Hell is other people".
NightVision
2005-11-29, 22:04
quote:Originally posted by AngryFemme:
If hell is earth, let it be written that I believe I can cope with it. It's not so bad. It's all in the perspective. Having a sense of humor helps, too. I'm fully acclimated.
Hell to me would be the pervasion of knowledge, the censorship of free thought and the binding that ties most people to their faith. I want to be free to change my mind whenever I feel like it. I never want to feel guilt or remorse for thinking outside of common belief.
This world is hell.
TheParkinator
2005-12-04, 07:23
Lack of communication, misunderstandings.
Languages?
Hell, perhaps.
I don't care.
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:
The thought of that terrifies me.
That's cause you're a pussy Jew. You gonna get burnt.
Xiao Mei
2005-12-04, 17:52
You know, he's not really jewish. He just calls himself The Rabbi, because "Rabbi" means "teacher."
quote:Originally posted by Xiao Mei:
You know, he's not really jewish. He just calls himself The Rabbi, because "Rabbi" means "teacher."
Are you hot?
Chaos Deathcult
2005-12-06, 07:53
quote:Originally posted by The_Rabbi:
They probably are trapped in an endless void, complete alone in the dark for eternity.
The thought of that terrifies me.
I'm pretty sure thats what hell is.